A couple of wild ideas

[zorlac]

The only way that I know of to fix iL-2 is to get the developers to do something... it uses SetCapture to lock the mouse to the window area, and I am unable to "bodge/fix" that

[zorlac]

does anyone have a contact email or forum address of the guy who wrote it? Oleg is it?

[AndyHill]

Boohoo I just ordered a super-expensive screen and it's all your fault.

[zorlac]

is there a missing smiley in that post? or are you really pissed-off? Cant tell....

[AndyHill]

I'm pretty much ok at the moment, but after a couple of weeks I might get hungry.

I don't remember Oleg's mail address, but he has a forum here: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=fr...102&f=63110913

He doesn't visit very often anymore, but there are people there who have pretty decent relations with Oleg and if you can raise interest there I think there's a good chance he might be interested in helping you out. The sequel is coming out sometime next year and it's going to be more complex than the previous versions (which is, of course, a playability concern) so chances are he might like your stuff.

As far as Touch-Buddy goes Il-2 series and the sequel would be a Big Deal, since it's probably the biggest combat sim at the moment, especially online, where word-of-mouth functions efficiently.

[Wild.Bill.Kelso]

I posted this message in Oleg's Ready Room a few months ago. But they didn't reply, and they just moved it to the General Discussion forum. So, I just took that for.. they don't care...

I'm sure they either have much more important things to do, or they cannot do it for some reason? Just guessing of cource.

Zorlac, have you actually tried to execute a ReleaseCapture command on IL2 to release it?

When I'm dragging a button in the Toolkit, I do this to start the dragging:

    SetCapture Me.hWnd
    GetCursorPos Pt
    mWnd = WindowFromPoint(Pt.x, Pt.y)
    If Button = 1 Then
        'BEGIN DRAG:
        Call ReleaseCapture
        lngReturnValue = SendMessage(mWnd, WM_NCLBUTTONDOWN, HTCAPTION, 0&)
        ReleaseCapture
        SetCapture Me.hWnd
        ...

I was thinking of trying to get the handle to IL2 and play with these commands to try and release the cursor. Just been too busy to try lately...

[AndyHill]

I think a far more effective way would be to approach someone close to Oleg and also explain exactly what the problem is and how easy it might be to fix. It would also help if you could point them to reviews full of praise on SimHQ for example. The product is fantastic and concidering the amoung of $ people pay for less capable stuff it's brilliant. It just needs to reach the critical mass so that it gains developers' interest.

Hmm would it be possible to approach this problem from a different perspective? The mouse-reliability comes from the way the touchscreen drivers work, correct? Have you tried negotiating with the guys who write the drivers or manufacture the screens to see if there are alternate methods available? They might even be interested, I doubt they would mind opening up entirely new market for touchscreens, especially concidering how popular computer gaming is nowadays.

[zorlac]

SetCapture will block all attempts to move the mouse from any drivers too The drivers report to the system, and the system is enforcing the lock to the area

I`ll see if I can contact Oleg via whatever channel...

[zorlac]

Ah... WBK, its the "WindowFromPoint" call I hadnt spotted... that might be very helpful. I`ll have a play tonight.... if you just see a large WOOHOO later, you know its working

Originally Posted by Wild.Bill.Kelso

    SetCapture Me.hWnd
    GetCursorPos Pt
    mWnd = WindowFromPoint(Pt.x, Pt.y)
    If Button = 1 Then
        'BEGIN DRAG:
        Call ReleaseCapture
        lngReturnValue = SendMessage(mWnd, WM_NCLBUTTONDOWN, HTCAPTION, 0&)
        ReleaseCapture
        SetCapture Me.hWnd
        ...

[zorlac]

lol... well, that was weird, think I need to do some more conditional tests when doing release capture.

I had releasecapture running on a loop every few seconds, and then while that was running, i grabbed and moved a normal window... bang... i lost "grip" and the window stopped moving.

I may have to check the window name against a list, which i`ll store in a text file in the TB dir, so I can issue a new list when games come up that cause problems. I`ll try to run this against iL-2 later this evening