adding multiple tabs from one profile onto a common skin.

[ggg]

i would like to find a way to make a larger window/skin and add multiple tabs to that window allowing me to have less instances of touchbuddy running when using the tbpit markII.


at present i am opening 6 seperate profiles in 6 tb clients adjusted to the top and bottom on each of the monitors, left, centre and right. so each monitor has two tb clients running.

so until we can workout how to get the full 3840 resolution to fit on one window which wbk is currently looking into for me, i have decided to attempt to put 2 tabs per window, and only run 3 tb clients.

this will eventually give me the knowledge necessary to do the same but on a larger scale,
and that is adding all 6 tabs to a single skin/window.

i understand how to resize the skin/window etc,
but i am unsure of how to move and position entire tabs and have more than one open in a single window.

or, is it that i need to make a new tab in a new profile the size i want eg: 1280x1024 and somehow copy over the content of the individual smaller tabs from the existing profile.

i will apologise for my poor knowledge of technical terms

thanks for looking, any help welcomed

[Wild.Bill.Kelso]

Can't see that little image g. Can you post a bigger one?

[zorlac]

i`m fighting a heavy cold right now, so excuse me if i screw up, but...

you can only have one tab strip in a TB window, and those tabs will affect the entire window area when a new tab is selected. I know WBK mentioned a while back about the possibility of "importing" a tab (and the buttons from that tab) from one profile into another, but thats a big job, and I have no idea if that progressed further than "yeah, thats cool, I`ll look at it"... (I have LOADS of those "thats cool" items on my to-do list, but they havent been done yet either)

[zorlac]

one of those "cool" items I have is multiple window support. Now that would be probably the biggest rewrite of code since I started the project, probably bigger than the rewrite I had to do to support animated GIF images (via ImageMagick). being able to have different windows open but all effectivly running as one client instance would certainly help the growing multi-monitor users, and even the TH2G crowd, but its an incredibly large project that would require an entire rewrite of TBTk too.

[ggg]

Originally Posted by Wild.Bill.Kelso

Can't see that little image g. Can you post a bigger one?

here you go wbk, its in the screenshot section.

Originally Posted by zorlac

you can only have one tab strip in a TB window, and those tabs will affect the entire window area when a new tab is selected. either)

that is understood, maybe i was a little unclear, lets see if i can make it worse

Originally Posted by ggg

i have decided to attempt to put "2 tabs per window, and only run 3 tb clients".
this will eventually give me the knowledge necessary to do the same but on a larger scale,
and that is adding all 6 tabs to a single skin/window.

i should have said put "2 tabs content onto a single tab , with a single tab strip, halving the amount of clients down to 3

i am interested in taking the entire content of a tab and adding it to a window that already has a tab, so i guess effectively it would become a new tab.

using a slightly different layout than in the pic,
let's take ruggs f15 profile for example, on the centre screen i run the vhf tab up the top and the game tab down below, i would like to make them into one new tab called vhf+game tab. this would give me a centre screen profile with all buttons running on a single tb client.

i just want to add the entire content of two seperate tabs to make a new tab, and then eventually make one large tab that contains all the other tabs content, but as you said only using one tab strip.
yep, clear as mud

it would reduce my startup greatly, at present i am opening all 6 clients, the windows position perfectly, but i must manually select the desired tab and then go to the tb tab, turning off the tab strip on each client and then returning to the previous tab.
in future when it starts a client on the tab selected in the tbtk this will be forgotten, and i guess unless having multiple instances of TB open is slower than just one then it won't matter at all, although i have a sneeking suspicion that a single client would be best, with one large window/skin full of many tabs content but with only one tab strip on a single window/skin

bye for now.........

ps: like i said no big deal, if and when it comes we shall be most appreciative, TB has already brought gaming into the next stage of evolution, its simply just keeps impressing me, and i am still clicking with a mouse

[Wild.Bill.Kelso]

I think I understand ggg. I do have on my list a feature to Import tabs from other profiles. That would help to start with.

But at present, it would probably be easier for you to do this manually.

You could use the Toolkit and get each profile started using the profile that has the tabs you want on the top half. Then set the Window Height to the correct size to fit your touchscreens. Save it.

Then, make a copy of the original profile that has the tab you want on the bottom. Open it in the Toolkit and rename that tab to the same as the one you are going to have it on in your new profile, then save it and exit the Toolkit.

Then, Open that profile up that you just saved, and copy all of those button sections and manually past them in your new profile. Then figure out how far they need to be moved down. 480 down, or 600 down? And add that to their current Y value (Y is top, right?).

Hope that's clean and makes sense.

WBK.

EDIT:
Ooops, I just remembered. There is a bug in the Toolkit that I am very suprised that nobody has reported. If you rename a Tab and save it, you loose all of the buttons. So, you may have to manually rename all of the tabname=xxxxxx lines in your new profile for these new buttons. But you could do a rename all using notepad. To be safe you could just put those buttons in an empty notepad and do the rename, then copy and paste them into your new profile.

[RacerTippy]

Originally Posted by Wild.Bill.Kelso

Ooops, I just remembered. There is a bug in the Toolkit that I am very suprised that nobody has reported. If you rename a Tab and save it, you loose all of the buttons. So, you may have to manually rename all of the tabname=xxxxxx lines in your new profile for these new buttons.

Errr, yeah, I ran into that one I thought I had screwed up when I lost that tab and had to recreate it. Guess it wasn't me
There is also a pathing problem with network drives where it repeats it twice and thus is an invalid path (\\network_share\share_name\dir_name\sub_dir_name) , but I'll report that in another thread one day.

[ggg]

sorry O/T.

hey racertippy,
i have recently been spreading the news of TB to sim racing friends and i have used your profile as an example of what can be done for the racing fans out there, specifically for rfactor.
i think this thing is going to snowball, it gathering momentum already.
like you i am doing my bit for getting the word out


WBK, thank for the advice as always.
will look into it further when opportunity arrives, cheers.